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  • #7500

    Harrumph
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    Hello, I open this topic for people to easily report compatibility or issues when connecting the OSSC directly to a consumer flat screen television (i.e. not monitors, PVMs or via scalers etc). Hopefully this will increase the speed at which info is gathered on TV brands/models which are suitable, without Marqs & Bucko constantly having to monitor things to update the official compatibility google sheet .

    WHAT TO REPORT:
    Please include complete TV model info, whether linetriple works, and if possible if SNES/SFC works.(*see note at bottom) Always use latest firmware. Additional info is also encouraged (like tested consoles, additional modes, settings tweaks & TV input lag), but in this post I will only summarize the above essentials. Reporting monitors, projectors and other setups is of course welcome (I know Bucko checks in with the thread from time to time) but again, I will not summarize those in this post (at least not at this point).

    UPDATE Feb 2017 Firmware 0.76 with Lx4 and Lx5 modes is now out! 😀 Please report any new findings with these modes also!

    Thanks to all contributors!

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    VARIOUS INFO
    Linedouble is expected to work on all TVs, and so far only three reported SNES problem. Line triple mode has had higher compatibility than expected, and compatibility can be increased further by external means.**See note at bottom
    UPDATE: FW 0.77 seems to have fixed incompatibilities with the new Samsung 4k sets! Unfortunately, a number of the new Samsung 4k sets are reported incompatible (KU6000-series, KS8000-series), even with Lx2!

    n/r – not reported or not tested
    Regarding the “tweaks” referenced to achieve Lx3/Lx4 for some models, see this Tips & Tweaks thread.

    TO DO: better sorting and way to distinguish models that are currently on market. I am open to suggestions on this point.
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    Models reported

    Hisense
    H40MEC2150 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: N/N | shmups user xadox
    H49MEC2650 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: N/Y | shmups user xadox Also does 256×240 optimized in Lx5.
    H49M3000 (4k) | Lx3: n/r | SNES: n/r | 480p x2 works markiemarcus
    LTDN40K321 (4k) | Lx3:Y | SNES: n/r | zz99
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    LG
    47LD450-ZA | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | eric90000
    47LN5790-UI | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | zxthehedgehog Also 480p x2.
    LG 4k
    55EF950V (OLED) | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | shmupsforum user Das Muel, You tube review Also handles 480p x2.
    55UH661V | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | richisawesome Several pics in thread. Note! User was unhappy with some features of the TV and returned it, see link for info.
    55UH615V | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | Lx4/5: Y/Y | TillDawn tested with PC-Engine
    65B6 (OLED) | Lx3: n/r | SNES: n/r | Lx4/5: n/r /Y | BahnYuki youtube
    65C7 (OLED) | Lx3: n/r | SNES: n/r | Lx4/5: n/r /Y | BahnYuki youtube For both B6 and C7, although not explicitly stated, it’s implied that they are compatible with Lx3/4 as well.
    65C6P (OLED) | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | RevQuixo
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    Panasonic
    TC-32LX60 (720p) | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | deltronik Poor scaling
    TX-32LXD70 (720p) | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | coderkind
    TX-L37S20BA | Lx3: N | SNES: n/r| Lx4/5: N/N | cleeg
    TC-P50S60 | Lx3: Y*| SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y*/N | deltronik *with tweak
    TC-P42S1 | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | Bironzilla
    TC-P50G20 | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | Pajamaslayer
    TC-P55VT60 | Lx3: Y*| SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y*/N | BonzoBits *With tweak
    TX-P55VT50Y | Lx3: N | SNES: N| arovane NeoGeo & NESRGB also does not work
    TC-P42UT50B | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | destinydoom
    TX-P50G30B | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | Jamie NeoGeo doesn’t work
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    Philips
    32PFL7762D/12 (720p)| Lx3: N | SNES: n/r | Lx4/5: N/N | JonasP Bad scaling.
    32PFL6606H | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y*/Y | Harrumph *With tweaks
    42PFL6008K | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | eurogamer.de review
    43PFT5301 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y* | Harrumph *320×240 optimized does not work in x5.
    43PUS6501 (4k) | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | Harrumph Severe issues with scaling and frame conversion, not recommended!
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    Pioneer Kuro PDP-5020FD | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: N/N | neogaf user Beer Monkey
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    Samsung
    LE32T51BX (720p)| Lx3: N | SNES: Y | HKT3030
    LE19C450E1W (720p)| Lx3: Y* | SNES: n/r| Lx4/5: N/N | cleeg *NTSC only
    UE32H6200 | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | Lx4/5: Y/Y | Sk8er000
    UE32J6300 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | afangus
    UE32J5100AK | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | eric90000
    UA55D6000SMXXY | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | BonzoBits
    HL67A750 | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | ShootTheCore
    HG32NC690 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | ShootTheCore
    55H8200 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | komadori PAL 2x mode only
    UE32K5600 |Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | Lx4/5: Y/Y* |vmagix *Lx5 Sega Megadrive only, sporadic and unusable for other consoles.
    UN46C6300 | Lx3: Y* | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y*/N | funny_mikey *works but cannot adjust aspect
    UN50H5203 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | NJRoadfan
    LE40A567P2W | Lx3: N | SNES: n/r | Lx4/5: Y/N | JonasP Has pretty severe interrupt on 240p/480i resolution switch (ca 8 sec).
    UN32EH4003F | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/N | Neogaf user Triforce141
    UN32J5003AF | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | retrorgb @ shmups
    Samsung 4k
    UE55HU7200 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | eurogamer.de review
    UN40KU6300GXZD | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | destinydoom FW 0.77 required, all modes work.
    UN50KU6300FXZA | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y* | virsago FW 0.77 required, all modes work. *Minor screen tearing with SNES in Lx5.
    UN55KS8000 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y* | GigaTortoise Works with FW 0.77. *SNES drops image infrequently in Lx5, otherwise fine.
    (UE43KU6075 | Lx3: N | SNES: N | Lx4/5: N/N | Harrumph Did not work with FW 0.76.) Should be retested with FW 0.77, likely it works now considering other reports (see above).
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    Sony
    KDL42W705B | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | noko_bombette
    KDL40W705CBU | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | eric90000
    KDL40EX655 | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | blizzz
    KDL-55W829B | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | coderkind
    KDL-40BX400 | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r| Lx4/5: N/Y | Deubeul
    KDL-47W805A | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | sonofmail
    KDL-70R550A | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | samson7point1
    KDL-55W950B | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | edenal
    KDL-46W900A | Lx3: N | SNES: Y | mimylovesjapan
    Sony 4k
    XBR-65x80c | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | retrorgb.com
    KD49X8005C | Lx3: Y | SNES: n/r | zz99
    KD65XD8577SAEP | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | shmupsforum user Elrinth
    KD-55XD7005 | Lx3: N | SNES: N | thestr4ng3r Overall glitchy results.
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    TCL 40FD2700 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | bkbreyme Also 480p x2
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    Toshiba 55L421U | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Mikeyy00 | Lx4/5: Y/Y | FlappyRacoon
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    Vizio
    E470VLE | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/N | NJRoadfan
    E600i-B3 | Lx3: n/r | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: n/r /Y | evilways
    Vizio 4k
    P502ui-B1 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | BahnYuki
    P702ui-B3 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | BahnYuki
    D40u-D1 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Bahn Yuki youtube review
    D50u-D1 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | shmups forum user orange808
    M70-C3 | Lx3: Y/N*| SNES: n/r | AetherSmyth *Drops image frequently
    D65u-D2 | Lx3: Y | SNES: Y | Lx4/5: Y/Y | BahnYuki (shmups) youtube
    M65-C1 | Lx3: Y/N*| SNES: Y/N* | *Sound issues, infrequent image drops. olsenn
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    See also the official compatibily chart for even more, including monitors.

    Provisional verdict:
    Samsung, LG & Vizio seem like pretty safe bets for Lx3 compatibility. For Sonys, it seems the new 4k XBR/X/XD range work with Lx3 also, but not the older W series otherwise highly praised for gaming. Panasonic generally do not seem to do Lx3.

    As far as SNES goes, very few incompatibilities have been reported, a better outcome than feared from earlier tests by Bucko and others. This could be due to reporter bias, or simply the more recent firmware tweaks did in fact increase compatibility.

    *Note I originally encouraged reporting SNES model revision but Marqs has since explained incompatibility issues with SNES is due to how the console outputs uneven length (longer/shorter) scanlines, irrespective of internal hardware. Still, SNES compatibility should be reported when possible, since it is known to be problematic for some TVs.
    **Note line triple and SNES compatibility can also be alleviated by using scalers like DVDO products (low additional lag), but A/V receivers and even cheap no-name scalers with HDMI input such as this one have been reported to help (though with higher additional lag).

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    #7507

    BuckoA51
    Keymaster

    Excellent idea, thank you.

    #7532

    noko_bombette
    Participant

    Sony Bravia KDL-42W705B

    SNES PAL (SNSP-CPU-02)
    SNES PAL RGB cable from Retrogamingcables (maybe sync on Luma but I’m not sure. It was bought some years ago and it was not specified).
    It works OK with default configuration.
    Image is a bit dark and it shows some noise (diagonal bars).
    Image is lighter with Framemeister but it still shows noise.

    SNES Mini. Modded with SUperCIC and RGB
    RGB cable that came with the console (I don’t know how it is wired).
    It works with default configuration (50 or 60 Hz) but sync is temporarily lost in some points of the tested game (DKC). When losing sync, OSSC LED goes red for a moment, the image is lost and after a moment, LED goes green and image is back.
    To avoid losing sync, I have to set Analog sync LPF to 2.5 MHz.
    Image is bright and it shows some noise (less than in PAL console). In 60 Hz mode noise is a bit less noticeable.
    Noise is gone with Framemeister (SCART to mini-DIN with sync cleaner is used).

    Linetriple mode does not work in any of the SNES models. TV shows a “non compatible mode” warning.

    Noise is not related to OSSC since it is also shown if I connect the consoles to the RGB input of the TV.

    #7581

    blizzz
    Participant

    Console used: 3-Chip Super Famicom (APU-01) with sync-on-composite cable

    Sony Bravia KDL40EX655
    480p – works
    720p – black screen (“Unsupported Signal. Check your device output.”)

    ASUS VG248QE
    480p – works
    720p – works

    Micomsoft SC-500N1
    480p – works
    720p – works (picture is slightly shifted to the right with a vertical line on the left)

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    #7601

    Harrumph
    Participant

    Seems I can’t edit first post…
    Can now edit, moved to first post.

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    #7665

    BahnYuki
    Participant

    Console used: SNES Model SNS-001 via RGB Scart from ebay store retro_console_accessories

    Vizio 50″ P502ui-B1 |Lx2:Y|Lx3:Y|SNES:Y
    Vizio 70″ P702ui-B3 |Lx2:Y|Lx3:Y|SNES:Y

    I’m getting a 2016 75″ P series TV next Wednesday where I’ll do testing on that. I choose the Vizio TVs due to excellent input delay and phenomenal picture. Here’s a video link of me playing Sega Saturn on the 50″ TV.

    Saturn in Triple line on Vizio UHDTV

    #7893

    Sk8er000
    Participant

    The model I use for retrogames is UE32H6200 and it’s compatible with both ossc’s modes 240p x3 and 480p x2

    #7929

    cleeg
    Participant

    CONSOLE: Natively PAL Sega Saturn, switchlessly region and Hz modded; running games from SD card via Rhea board.

    TV: Panasonic Viera, LCD TX-L37S20BA, non LED backlight, 1080 native resolution.

    MODE: Line Double to 480p – works nicely. Game mode on this TV only allows 16:9 aspect ratio. There is ++ dot crawl with sharpness >0.
    MODE: Line Triple to 720p – black screen.

    #7938

    BuckoA51
    Keymaster

    That’s unfortunate, many Panasonic sets do support line triple and that fixes the aspect ratio thing. Thanks everyone for reporting your findings thus far!

    #8050

    h1ghju1ce
    Participant

    BenQ BL2405HT – Works with LineTripplePAL mode (Source Amiga A1200 and MegaDriveII )

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EQ0P7K8

    Havent tested 480LineDouble yet as I need to hook up the PS2 for that

    BenQ LineTriple - Turrican II

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    #8052

    BuckoA51
    Keymaster

    Nice, Turrican 2 if I’m not mistaken? 🙂

    #8058

    h1ghju1ce
    Participant

    Yup 🙂

    One of my fav games of all time, never get tired of the music soundtrack either

    Cant wait for the orchestral album they’re doing on kickstarter 🙂

    #8069

    deltronik
    Participant

    Panasonic tc-p50s60

    x2 480p works almost perfectly for the consoles I’ve tested so far, all perfect but Famicom
    x3 720p does not work with any source
    x2 480p does not work for Dreamcast, 480p pass-through is perfect (only tested dreamcast for 480p)

    Consoles tested:
    Twin Famicom (Odd Horizontal sync issue or something, look at my NESRGB Twin Famicom thread – not sure if something is up with console)

    Genesis
    Dreamcast
    SNES (early model with native RGB)
    n64
    PS1
    PC Engine DUO-R

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    #8095

    deltronik
    Participant

    Panasonic TC-32LX60

    x2 works
    x3 does not work
    x2 480p does not work

    Same consoles tested as above. SNES with native RGB works. Poor scaling to 720p, scanlines look terrible.

    Not a TV, but my Emachines E211H LCD supports all modes, SNES x3 looks great!

    The horizontal sync issue with my NESRGB has been present on all displays.

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    #8118

    coderkind
    Participant

    Panasonic TX-32LXD70
    x2 works
    x3 doesn’t work
    SNES works

    Sony KDL-55W829B
    x2 works
    x3 doesn’t work
    SNES works

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